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Quest
Trust Not The System.
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Also known as "Questtrek".
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I make art and occasionally games.
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πŸ©·πŸ’œπŸ’™
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I always try to give the best feedback possible, and am open to playtesting if you want another opinion.
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Death to AI.
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Feel free to PM me about anyting.

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thank you so much. πŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œ

I’m curious, what’s the probability of a AI music getting to the frontpage? Is it like 1 in 100?

Rarer than that. There's been about a dozen that I know of through 2024 into 2025. I don't know the exact count, and there might have been more that were not caught.

Thank you so much for contributing to the future of the audio portal too! I'm still waiting for you to get back online and help find AI shit on this audio portal too!

Thanks for sharing this, Quest! I had no clue AI is getting this convincing. If you're just casually listening to it, you may not even realize an audio track is AI-generated. We definitely need to keep an eye on this.

@Platzsoldier In 2024, almost 100 AI audio received Frontpaged, some of them probably even remained, but the audio that was Frontpaged is very much and it's not so easy to search.

Excellent use of opportunity, and yet another well written guide for the public. Awesome!

@destinyart Sometimes, AI music is downright scary for me -- especially with the grainier genres like lo-fi hip-hop, or chillhop as it's commonly referred to. There seems to be a subset of instruments it adheres to for everything else. I recommend listening to a bit of it yourself on purpose, i.e. via prompt, and getting used to how it sounds. You'll spot it immediately thereafter, with almost 100% accuracy.

Also, somehow I was not already following you. Well, fixed that!

@ADR3-N Thanks for the advice! I think that's a good idea - if I listen to the AI music carefully, I'll start to spot how it sounds when I hear it. I think it's tougher when it's ambient kind of music like the genres you mentioned. Lo-fi and stuff like that can be easy for AI to imitate, because there's not many dynamics and the song stays pretty much the same. But I think it's harder for AI to sound genuine and spontaneous in the way the human voice and human-written songs sound.

Congratulations on User of the Day!

@destinyart Oh absolutely. And not only is it hard for AI to accurately emulate the musicality of a human voice -- it's also hard for it to emulate quality, conscious mixing decisions made by a real human, since the input audio is compressed mp3s -- a lot lower quality than artists typically release.

@ADR3-N Absolutely! I like working with WAV files more myself, but if I have to, I can work with mp3s as well. There's definitely a sound quality difference, though. AI definitely can't properly mix a song in the way a human could, because that takes nuance and an ability to actually analyze what you hear. AI just knows how to imitate from all the inputs it gets from the internet, but I don't think it can truly make its own decisions in mixing a song, which is why it probably doesn't sound that good. So I agree, AI can't really compare to the human voice and human creativity.

Congratz to becoming User of the Day, Quest!

You know, when I see "I am User of the Day!"-posts I usually cheekily point out that this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for them to capitalize in the extra attention they are getting and that they could do something more meaningful that just step up to the microphone and announce "I am User of the Day! That is all."

But you are _actually_ doing exactly that: Doing your part in saving the world!
And I am very proud to share a community with you! :)

Very glad to share a community with you as well (:

@destinyart You are once again 100% correct. AI does not mix well at all. It works based on isolated stems fed into it of different tracks, which as you know sound like ass to begin with. There are artefacts everywhere. A lot of times, this is what we hear.

Then too, you know from crushing mp3s from 320kbps to 190kbps or whatever, it blows and compresses the mix to absolute ass. AI music is never going to sound good with that kind of quality discrepancy, no matter what it exports at.

@ADR3-N Yes, exactly, when you look at it from that view, you see why AI music is not going to sound that good. You lose quality when you compress a mix that much, so you're not going to hear something that sounds pleasant to the ear. That's probably another sign for spotting AI - if it's working on isolated stems that already sound pretty awful, its "song" is not going to have a great sound!

For what it's worth, you can use AI to detect AI music: https://youtu.be/QVXfcIb3OKo?si=IJPGtXSF80ugpRSP